Discussion:
Why Did Elizabeth Rohm Leave Law and Order?
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Jav Atar
2005-02-08 19:39:07 UTC
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Hello,

Beyond the character discussions (gay, etc), why did Elizabth Rohm
leave? Was it felt by management that her character ran its course, or
did she choose to leave?

Jav Atar
The Original Fat Elvis
2005-02-08 21:23:51 UTC
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She left because she was on long enough to give her the delusion that she
was an actress and that she should act in movies. Kind of shows how stupid
she is, I mean, how many ex-TV stars have succeeded in what she is
attempting.
Post by Jav Atar
Hello,
Beyond the character discussions (gay, etc), why did Elizabth Rohm
leave? Was it felt by management that her character ran its course, or
did she choose to leave?
Jav Atar
Mk40
2005-02-09 09:04:00 UTC
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Post by The Original Fat Elvis
She left because she was on long enough to give her the delusion that she
was an actress and that she should act in movies. Kind of shows how stupid
she is, I mean, how many ex-TV stars have succeeded in what she is
attempting.
Clint Eastwood (Rawhide)
Tom Hanks (Bosom Buddies)
James Garner (Maverick)
Sally Field (The Flying Nun)
Steve McQueen (Wanted: Dead Or Alive)
Jim Carrey (In Living Color)
Burt Reynolds (Dan August)
Demi Moore (General Hospital)
Michael Douglas (Streets of SF)
Denzel Washington (St. Elsewhere)
Danny DeVito (Taxi)
Johnny Depp (21 Jump Street)
Lots of SNL alums
Brian Gonigal
2005-02-09 16:20:42 UTC
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Post by The Original Fat Elvis
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
She left because she was on long enough to give her the delusion that she
was an actress and that she should act in movies. Kind of shows how
stupid
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
she is, I mean, how many ex-TV stars have succeeded in what she is
attempting.
Clint Eastwood (Rawhide)
Tom Hanks (Bosom Buddies)
James Garner (Maverick)
Sally Field (The Flying Nun)
Steve McQueen (Wanted: Dead Or Alive)
Jim Carrey (In Living Color)
Burt Reynolds (Dan August)
Demi Moore (General Hospital)
Michael Douglas (Streets of SF)
Denzel Washington (St. Elsewhere)
Danny DeVito (Taxi)
Johnny Depp (21 Jump Street)
Lots of SNL alums
Your point is valid, but some of your examples are a bit shakey. Steve
McQueen & Burt Reynolds had lots of work in Television before they hit it
really big, and they may have even had their own now long-forgotten series
at one point, but I'm not sure you could say they were really well known TV
"Stars", to the point where people might argue that it was foolish for them
to give up the success they'd earned in that field in order to try their
hand at movies. Michael Douglas was known at least as much for being Kirk
Douglas' son as for his role on Streets, and those family connections don't
hurt when you're trying to make it big in film. James Garner may have had
several notable movie roles, but I think he's still far & away best known as
Jim Rockford or Maverick (TV version). Tom Hanks had co-starred in a
splashy but short lived (and stupid) sitcom, I don't think he really had any
sort of massively successful TV career going that he had to put on hold in
order to make Splash. In any event, it does seem to be a somewhat easier
path for TV comedians to transfer to the world of goofy movie comedy,
Although if they're then able to sucessfully shift to more dramatic roles
like Hanks, Sally Field & perhaps Jim Carrey, that is a bit more impressive
than Rob Schnider getting to make Deuce Bigalow.
The best example I can think of of a TV star who really took a huge risk in
leaving a secure job as the star of a hugely succesful TV show for a movie
career and had it pay off big is George Clooney, although if you go by
critical aclaim / Oscar notice more than Box Office, Denzel Washinton might
have him beat.

Brian
The Original Fat Elvis
2005-02-09 20:48:05 UTC
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I agree with you, but my point was a little tongue and cheek. There are
some actors/actresses who have done it but how many haven't?
Post by Brian Gonigal
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
She left because she was on long enough to give her the delusion that she
was an actress and that she should act in movies. Kind of shows how
stupid
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
she is, I mean, how many ex-TV stars have succeeded in what she is
attempting.
Clint Eastwood (Rawhide)
Tom Hanks (Bosom Buddies)
James Garner (Maverick)
Sally Field (The Flying Nun)
Steve McQueen (Wanted: Dead Or Alive)
Jim Carrey (In Living Color)
Burt Reynolds (Dan August)
Demi Moore (General Hospital)
Michael Douglas (Streets of SF)
Denzel Washington (St. Elsewhere)
Danny DeVito (Taxi)
Johnny Depp (21 Jump Street)
Lots of SNL alums
Your point is valid, but some of your examples are a bit shakey. Steve
McQueen & Burt Reynolds had lots of work in Television before they hit it
really big, and they may have even had their own now long-forgotten series
at one point, but I'm not sure you could say they were really well known
TV "Stars", to the point where people might argue that it was foolish for
them to give up the success they'd earned in that field in order to try
their hand at movies. Michael Douglas was known at least as much for
being Kirk Douglas' son as for his role on Streets, and those family
connections don't hurt when you're trying to make it big in film. James
Garner may have had several notable movie roles, but I think he's still
far & away best known as Jim Rockford or Maverick (TV version). Tom Hanks
had co-starred in a splashy but short lived (and stupid) sitcom, I don't
think he really had any sort of massively successful TV career going that
he had to put on hold in order to make Splash. In any event, it does seem
to be a somewhat easier path for TV comedians to transfer to the world of
goofy movie comedy,
Although if they're then able to sucessfully shift to more dramatic roles
like Hanks, Sally Field & perhaps Jim Carrey, that is a bit more
impressive than Rob Schnider getting to make Deuce Bigalow.
The best example I can think of of a TV star who really took a huge risk
in leaving a secure job as the star of a hugely succesful TV show for a
movie career and had it pay off big is George Clooney, although if you go
by critical aclaim / Oscar notice more than Box Office, Denzel Washinton
might have him beat.
Brian
Steven de Mena
2005-02-10 09:21:42 UTC
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I am thinking of Anthony Edwards ("E.R.") with his small role in "The
Forgotten" and an embarassing role as "Brains" in the live action
"Thunderbirds" movie.
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
I agree with you, but my point was a little tongue and cheek. There are
some actors/actresses who have done it but how many haven't?
Sparky
2005-02-11 03:38:53 UTC
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Post by Steven de Mena
I am thinking of Anthony Edwards ("E.R.") with his small role in "The
Forgotten" and an embarassing role as "Brains" in the live action
"Thunderbirds" movie.
Keep in mind that before ER, Anthony Edwards was a major nerd in
"Revenge of the Nerds" and Tom Cruise's late cockpit buddy (navigator?
what does the 2nd guy in an F-14 do?).
theget
2005-02-11 19:36:02 UTC
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Post by Sparky
Post by Steven de Mena
I am thinking of Anthony Edwards ("E.R.") with his small role in "The
Forgotten" and an embarassing role as "Brains" in the live action
"Thunderbirds" movie.
Keep in mind that before ER, Anthony Edwards was a major nerd in
"Revenge of the Nerds" and Tom Cruise's late cockpit buddy
(navigator?
Post by Sparky
what does the 2nd guy in an F-14 do?).
I think the second seater does some navigation, but also may do some
threat assesment and target aquisition.

But I'm no expert.

Theget
ray o'hara
2005-02-11 21:46:00 UTC
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Post by Sparky
Post by Sparky
Post by Steven de Mena
I am thinking of Anthony Edwards ("E.R.") with his small role in
"The
Post by Sparky
Post by Steven de Mena
Forgotten" and an embarassing role as "Brains" in the live action
"Thunderbirds" movie.
Keep in mind that before ER, Anthony Edwards was a major nerd in
"Revenge of the Nerds" and Tom Cruise's late cockpit buddy
(navigator?
Post by Sparky
what does the 2nd guy in an F-14 do?).
I think the second seater does some navigation, but also may do some
threat assesment and target aquisition.
But I'm no expert.
Theget
the back seater is there to watch for threats, he is the radar
intercept officer. the pilot does all flying,navigating and target and
weapons work, the other guy watches the radar for missles coming after
them.
The Original Fat Elvis
2005-02-11 22:14:58 UTC
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I have also thought of David Caruso and the most famous of all Shelley Long.
Post by Steven de Mena
I am thinking of Anthony Edwards ("E.R.") with his small role in "The
Forgotten" and an embarassing role as "Brains" in the live action
"Thunderbirds" movie.
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
I agree with you, but my point was a little tongue and cheek. There are
some actors/actresses who have done it but how many haven't?
Sparky
2005-02-12 03:04:18 UTC
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Post by The Original Fat Elvis
I have also thought of David Caruso
He's my personal hero, satirized in the opening episode of South Park
(Cartman Gets an Anal Probe).
The Original Fat Elvis
2005-02-12 04:14:04 UTC
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I've seen that episode numerous times but can't seem to remember that. I
will have to check it on DVD when I have time.
Post by Sparky
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
I have also thought of David Caruso
He's my personal hero, satirized in the opening episode of South Park
(Cartman Gets an Anal Probe).
Sparky
2005-02-13 07:58:28 UTC
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Post by The Original Fat Elvis
I've seen that episode numerous times but can't seem to remember that. I
will have to check it on DVD when I have time.
Ike is on the visitors' ship and Kyle wants to get him back, so he yells
"Ike, do your impression of David Caruso's career!" (or words to that
effect) and Ike jumped from the ship, landing headfirst in the snow.

http://talk.csifiles.com/showflat.php?Number=52606
David Samuel Barr
2005-02-13 08:02:09 UTC
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Post by The Original Fat Elvis
Post by Sparky
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
I have also thought of David Caruso
He's my personal hero, satirized in the opening episode of South
Park (Cartman Gets an Anal Probe).
I've seen that episode numerous times but can't seem to remember that.
I will have to check it on DVD when I have time.
It's when Kyle gets his baby brother to jump down from the alien ship
by calling, "Ike, do your impression of David Caruso's career!"

Ursula
2005-02-11 05:43:23 UTC
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Post by Brian Gonigal
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
She left because she was on long enough to give her the delusion that she
was an actress and that she should act in movies. Kind of shows how
stupid
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
she is, I mean, how many ex-TV stars have succeeded in what she is
attempting.
Clint Eastwood (Rawhide)
Tom Hanks (Bosom Buddies)
James Garner (Maverick)
Sally Field (The Flying Nun)
Steve McQueen (Wanted: Dead Or Alive)
Jim Carrey (In Living Color)
Burt Reynolds (Dan August)
Demi Moore (General Hospital)
Michael Douglas (Streets of SF)
Denzel Washington (St. Elsewhere)
Danny DeVito (Taxi)
Johnny Depp (21 Jump Street)
Lots of SNL alums
Your point is valid, but some of your examples are a bit shakey. Steve
McQueen & Burt Reynolds had lots of work in Television before they hit it
really big, and they may have even had their own now long-forgotten series
at one point, but I'm not sure you could say they were really well known TV
"Stars", to the point where people might argue that it was foolish for them
to give up the success they'd earned in that field in order to try their
hand at movies. Michael Douglas was known at least as much for being Kirk
Douglas' son as for his role on Streets, and those family connections don't
hurt when you're trying to make it big in film. James Garner may have had
several notable movie roles, but I think he's still far & away best known as
Jim Rockford or Maverick (TV version). Tom Hanks had co-starred in a
splashy but short lived (and stupid) sitcom, I don't think he really had any
sort of massively successful TV career going that he had to put on hold in
order to make Splash. In any event, it does seem to be a somewhat easier
path for TV comedians to transfer to the world of goofy movie comedy,
Although if they're then able to sucessfully shift to more dramatic roles
like Hanks, Sally Field & perhaps Jim Carrey, that is a bit more impressive
than Rob Schnider getting to make Deuce Bigalow.
The best example I can think of of a TV star who really took a huge risk in
leaving a secure job as the star of a hugely succesful TV show for a movie
career and had it pay off big is George Clooney, although if you go by
critical aclaim / Oscar notice more than Box Office, Denzel Washinton might
have him beat.
Brian
The ADA roll, however, is not the "star" of the show. Rather, it's a
secondary roll, and has been used as a training ground, with the young
actors taking the roll learning from some truly superb actors, including
Waterston, and an awful lot of the guest stars, who have established
theater careers. And while they haven't gone on to huge careers in the
Hollywood sense, they have been able to do what they want, personally and
professionally, all of them have improved as they spent time in the roll,
and at least one, Jill Hennessey, has been quite successful
professionally, in her own quirky way, on stage, film and tv. They also
seem to develop a strong sense of professionalism - you don't here rumors
of divas and tantrums on the L&O set, as you do with many other shows.

Being filmed in NYC, L&O may not provide as many opportunities for the
actors involved to develop professional networks in Hollywood. But they
seem to develop good ties to the NYC theater world, and the film/tv
industry on the east coast. A different, and lower profile, success, but
also, perhaps, healthier for the people involved. The various L&O actors,
when interviewed, seem amazingly sane compared to their west coast peers.

Regular work on a tv show, not as a "star" but as a regular cast member,
is probably very good training for a young actor. Not the intense insanity
of a movie set, but steady work, requiring endurance and constant exposure
to new material. And on a set like L&O's, with exposure to truly great
actors from both the senior regulars and the guests pulled from the NYC
theater community, well, if they take full advantage of that, they'll do
well.

Ursula
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Hoosier Daddy
2005-02-10 23:32:04 UTC
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Post by The Original Fat Elvis
She left because she was on long enough to give her the delusion that she
was an actress and that she should act in movies. Kind of shows how
stupid
Post by The Original Fat Elvis
she is, I mean, how many ex-TV stars have succeeded in what she is
attempting.
Clint Eastwood (Rawhide)
Tom Hanks (Bosom Buddies)
James Garner (Maverick)
Sally Field (The Flying Nun)
Steve McQueen (Wanted: Dead Or Alive)
Jim Carrey (In Living Color)
Burt Reynolds (Dan August)
Demi Moore (General Hospital)
Michael Douglas (Streets of SF)
Denzel Washington (St. Elsewhere)
Danny DeVito (Taxi)
Johnny Depp (21 Jump Street)
Lots of SNL alums
But those folks had that elusive quality called talent.
DevilsPGD
2005-02-09 01:11:39 UTC
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Post by Jav Atar
Beyond the character discussions (gay, etc), why did Elizabth Rohm
leave? Was it felt by management that her character ran its course, or
did she choose to leave?
She left because she can't act.
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